Meet Our Staff
Service
Mike Pyle
Service Advisor
Cody Jacobsen
Service Advisor
Leigh Ann Anderson
Service Advisor
William "Arley" Overturf
Service Manager
Management
SCOTT HEGSETH
NEW CAR SALES MGR
Mark Tesdall
Sales Mgr
Gary Hanken
Pre Owned Manager
Dave O'Connell
Business Development Manager
MITCH AMDAHL
GM
Kelly Ratz
SALES MGR/INVENTORY MGR
Sales
KEVIN KIMMES
Sales Associate
Tyler Theis
Sales Associate
Kevin Dietz
Sales Associate
MIKE MITCHELL
Sales Associate
Annie Alcorn
Sales Associate
CRAIG DIERCKS
Sales Associate
Ashley Oelkers
Sales Consultant
Jasen Einberger
Sales Consultant
Finance
Brian Willner
Finance Manager
Parts
ANDY HAWKENSON
PARTS MANAGER
Mike Pyle
Service Advisor
Jul 28, 2021
Satisfactory and timely service, plus great staff! It’s...
Satisfactory and timely service, plus great staff! It’s always nice walking in and seeing everyone’s friendly faces. I would recommend this service center for any of your vehicles needs.
Jul 28, 2021
The service team talked to me about what I needed. They...
The service team talked to me about what I needed. They gave me good advice. Service was done in a very timely manner. They also kept me informed.
Jul 27, 2021
Always great service and reasonable prices. They are...
Always great service and reasonable prices. They are great at giving accurate estimates and getting it done. They always tell us if something unexpected comes up then they give us choices on what can be done. We trust them with all vehicle needs. People seem more like family. Christine Radtke
Jul 22, 2021
it was super easy and hassle free would recommend it for...
it was super easy and hassle free would recommend it for anyone who needs car work. friendly staff who try and make you satisfied and happy
Jul 16, 2021
I brought my truck in for its first oil change. There was...
I brought my truck in for its first oil change. There was two recalls for it and they took care of them as well. They were done faster than expected.
Cody Jacobsen
Service Advisor
Jul 28, 2021
Very professional from top to bottom. Extremely happy...
Very professional from top to bottom. Extremely happy with Cody for getting the work set up. All was done fast and I think very well.
Jul 28, 2021
They did what i went in for, such as changing the oil and...
They did what i went in for, such as changing the oil and i hope rotating the tires,and checking all fluids. Also checking why my fan on the air conditioning was making noises. Couldn't find anything wrong.
Jul 28, 2021
Satisfactory and timely service, plus great staff! It’s...
Satisfactory and timely service, plus great staff! It’s always nice walking in and seeing everyone’s friendly faces. I would recommend this service center for any of your vehicles needs.
Jul 28, 2021
The service team talked to me about what I needed. They...
The service team talked to me about what I needed. They gave me good advice. Service was done in a very timely manner. They also kept me informed.
Jul 27, 2021
Always great service and reasonable prices. They are...
Always great service and reasonable prices. They are great at giving accurate estimates and getting it done. They always tell us if something unexpected comes up then they give us choices on what can be done. We trust them with all vehicle needs. People seem more like family. Christine Radtke
SCOTT HEGSETH
NEW CAR SALES MGR
Aug 01, 2021
Ashley was awesome to work with! Helped me every step of...
Ashley was awesome to work with! Helped me every step of the way and always there to answer any questions I had. Red wing Chevrolet made the experience very comfortable and fun. The staff always made sure I was aware of everything going on and made sure to find the best deal for me. Ashley kept her word with all options and features discussed and made the whole experience run smoothly. Would definitely recommend her and Red Wing Chevrolet to anyone! Keep up the wonderful work Ashley! Thank you everyone at Red Wing Chevrolet!
Jul 27, 2021
Always great service and reasonable prices. They are...
Always great service and reasonable prices. They are great at giving accurate estimates and getting it done. They always tell us if something unexpected comes up then they give us choices on what can be done. We trust them with all vehicle needs. People seem more like family. Christine Radtke
Jul 21, 2021
Easy to work with no sales pitch and allowed me to stick...
Easy to work with no sales pitch and allowed me to stick to my budget. No pushy sales tactics here. Overall awesome experience! Fun atmosphere and awesome people!
Jul 15, 2021
As always everyone at the dealership is great. Kevin...
As always everyone at the dealership is great. Kevin knows exactly what type of vehicle I am looking for with every purchase I have done. Brian explained everything regarding my loan.
Jun 14, 2021
We were in and out quickly to look. Kevin was not pushy....
We were in and out quickly to look. Kevin was not pushy. Very friendly and quick to respond when my husband wanted to come look at the truck after work. And a great quick process to buy a car. Family friendly waiting area for our son to play while we waited.
Leigh Ann Anderson
Service Advisor
Jul 28, 2021
Satisfactory and timely service, plus great staff! It’s...
Satisfactory and timely service, plus great staff! It’s always nice walking in and seeing everyone’s friendly faces. I would recommend this service center for any of your vehicles needs.
Jul 28, 2021
In and out in under a hour. They found the problem and...
In and out in under a hour. They found the problem and solved it. Truck needed a software download at a little over 5000 miles. The vehicle just about stranded me because of the issue. When it finally did start it blew black smoke. Hopefully there isn’t permanent damage to the engine. I’m not happy with the product at this point but the service has been great.
Jul 27, 2021
Always great service and reasonable prices. They are...
Always great service and reasonable prices. They are great at giving accurate estimates and getting it done. They always tell us if something unexpected comes up then they give us choices on what can be done. We trust them with all vehicle needs. People seem more like family. Christine Radtke
Jul 14, 2021
Quick service, easy to book appointments, thorough...
Quick service, easy to book appointments, thorough assessment of my car's upcoming needs, friendly staff. Very pleasant, well designed waiting area for both relaxation or work.
Jul 14, 2021
The service department got me in right away for an oil...
The service department got me in right away for an oil change and the service was fast! Cody even checked in on me the next day to ensure I was taken care of!
Mark Tesdall
Sales Mgr
Aug 01, 2021
Ashley was awesome to work with! Helped me every step of...
Ashley was awesome to work with! Helped me every step of the way and always there to answer any questions I had. Red wing Chevrolet made the experience very comfortable and fun. The staff always made sure I was aware of everything going on and made sure to find the best deal for me. Ashley kept her word with all options and features discussed and made the whole experience run smoothly. Would definitely recommend her and Red Wing Chevrolet to anyone! Keep up the wonderful work Ashley! Thank you everyone at Red Wing Chevrolet!
May 25, 2021
That staff at Red Wing Chevrolet was very friendly and...
That staff at Red Wing Chevrolet was very friendly and incredible to deal with. They made me feel comfortable and confident with the vehicle I purchased.
May 24, 2021
Excellent Service, Friendly Staff, Great Quality...
Excellent Service, Friendly Staff, Great Quality Vehicles Joyful Experience Would Highly Recommend Red Wing Chevrolet Buick Cadillac for a Vehicle new or used Amazing Staff
May 12, 2021
The whole process was a breeze great people to do...
The whole process was a breeze great people to do business with we told them what we wanted and could afford they listened and made every effort to come through
May 04, 2021
Red Wing Chevrolet made my first vehicle purchase...
Red Wing Chevrolet made my first vehicle purchase experience an incredible one! I fell in love with the Equinox and was able to find the perfect vehicle for me!
KEVIN KIMMES
Sales Associate
Jul 15, 2021
As always everyone at the dealership is great. Kevin...
As always everyone at the dealership is great. Kevin knows exactly what type of vehicle I am looking for with every purchase I have done. Brian explained everything regarding my loan.
Jul 11, 2021
Good service! No high pressure sales pitch. All my...
Good service! No high pressure sales pitch. All my questions were answered quickly. Minor differences were resolved. Thank you Red Wing Chev/Buick/Cad. I’m on the road again!
Jul 03, 2021
Needed to purchase a car more locally. Red Wing...
Needed to purchase a car more locally. Red Wing Chevrolet is less than a mile from present apartment versus 50 miles from Rochester. Previously owned a Buick and car was a good dependable car versus several models in recent pass.
Jun 11, 2021
Kevin and Scott were very helpful in getting my new...
Kevin and Scott were very helpful in getting my new truck. It was not there yet when I inquired about it but they kept me informed on when it would arrive and were great to deal with!
May 24, 2021
I had the best experience at Red Wing Chevy. Thank you...
I had the best experience at Red Wing Chevy. Thank you Kevin Kimmes, Scott, and brian for going above and beyond my expectations and helping me find my dream car!
Gary Hanken
Pre Owned Manager
Jul 15, 2021
Red Wing Chevrolet was great to do business with....
Red Wing Chevrolet was great to do business with. Everyone was extremely friendly and made our buying experience very pleasant. Would recommend them to anyone looking to buy a vehicle.
Jul 11, 2021
Good service! No high pressure sales pitch. All my...
Good service! No high pressure sales pitch. All my questions were answered quickly. Minor differences were resolved. Thank you Red Wing Chev/Buick/Cad. I’m on the road again!
Jun 11, 2021
Red Wing Chevy gave me a great deal on my trade-in and...
Red Wing Chevy gave me a great deal on my trade-in and found me a new truck that met all my needs. It was a pleasure doing business with them.
May 26, 2021
Things were handled very easily and quickly. All were...
Things were handled very easily and quickly. All were great to deal with. Pricing seemed competitive. Paperwork went nice and easy Would be happy to send other their way
May 25, 2021
That staff at Red Wing Chevrolet was very friendly and...
That staff at Red Wing Chevrolet was very friendly and incredible to deal with. They made me feel comfortable and confident with the vehicle I purchased.
Tyler Theis
Sales Associate
Jun 30, 2021
Very nice service really happy with my first new truck ...
Very nice service really happy with my first new truck
Jun 11, 2021
The staff at Ref Wing Chevy made it very easy to make my...
The staff at Ref Wing Chevy made it very easy to make my first official car purchase. I appreciated their patience, humor, and step-by-step help along the way!
Jun 02, 2021
Very patient with us. Took the time for us to drive...
Very patient with us. Took the time for us to drive several vehicles. No pressure sale. Tyler did an excellent job. I world definitely send other people to Red Wing Chevrolet!
May 26, 2021
Things were handled very easily and quickly. All were...
Things were handled very easily and quickly. All were great to deal with. Pricing seemed competitive. Paperwork went nice and easy Would be happy to send other their way
May 25, 2021
That staff at Red Wing Chevrolet was very friendly and...
That staff at Red Wing Chevrolet was very friendly and incredible to deal with. They made me feel comfortable and confident with the vehicle I purchased.
Brian Willner
Finance Manager
Aug 01, 2021
Ashley was awesome to work with! Helped me every step of...
Ashley was awesome to work with! Helped me every step of the way and always there to answer any questions I had. Red wing Chevrolet made the experience very comfortable and fun. The staff always made sure I was aware of everything going on and made sure to find the best deal for me. Ashley kept her word with all options and features discussed and made the whole experience run smoothly. Would definitely recommend her and Red Wing Chevrolet to anyone! Keep up the wonderful work Ashley! Thank you everyone at Red Wing Chevrolet!
Jul 27, 2021
Always great service and reasonable prices. They are...
Always great service and reasonable prices. They are great at giving accurate estimates and getting it done. They always tell us if something unexpected comes up then they give us choices on what can be done. We trust them with all vehicle needs. People seem more like family. Christine Radtke
Jul 24, 2021
I would recommend buying absolutely any vehicle from...
I would recommend buying absolutely any vehicle from here! The team at Red Wing Chevrolet treated me and my mother like family! No pressure into buying the vehicle we went to look at. Mike Mitchell was a awesome salesman to work with! Didn't rush us, let us take our time, answered our questions. Even bought us a pizza since we were there so late in the day purchasing a vehicle! I purchased a used Ford from there and down the road when I'm ready for another and they have a vehicle I'd like to purchase they have my business! Even buying a non GM vehicle here they treat you like you were buying a brand new car! I live over and hour from there and it's worth the drive to get the right vehicle from great people!
Jul 21, 2021
Easy to work with no sales pitch and allowed me to stick...
Easy to work with no sales pitch and allowed me to stick to my budget. No pushy sales tactics here. Overall awesome experience! Fun atmosphere and awesome people!
Jul 15, 2021
As always everyone at the dealership is great. Kevin...
As always everyone at the dealership is great. Kevin knows exactly what type of vehicle I am looking for with every purchase I have done. Brian explained everything regarding my loan.
Kevin Dietz
Sales Associate
Jul 21, 2021
I will be back to purchase another vehicle in the fall!...
I will be back to purchase another vehicle in the fall! This dealership is top notch! Very friendly and easy to work with! My sales person, Kevin, went above and beyond the normal customer service!
Jun 14, 2021
We were in and out quickly to look. Kevin was not pushy....
We were in and out quickly to look. Kevin was not pushy. Very friendly and quick to respond when my husband wanted to come look at the truck after work. And a great quick process to buy a car. Family friendly waiting area for our son to play while we waited.
Jun 13, 2021
First time with dealership. We were met by Kevin Dietz to...
First time with dealership. We were met by Kevin Dietz to show us a truck we called about. Very friendly and excellent customer skills. Able to put us at ease right away. New the truck info well. Easy going, no hard pressure sale. Turned over to Brian to complete paperwork. He was also very good to work with, and helped with all questions and concerns. All staff we had contact with were very friendly and helpful. Will be back.
Jun 12, 2021
Red Wing Chevrolet is a top notch deal. I buy all my...
Red Wing Chevrolet is a top notch deal. I buy all my vehicles from Red Wing Chevrolet. Their service department is very responsive to my needs.
Jun 11, 2021
Kevin was great! Not pushy at all and made the process...
Kevin was great! Not pushy at all and made the process painless. One visit and out the door with financing done. I’m enjoying my new (used) Buick!
MIKE MITCHELL
Sales Associate
Jul 24, 2021
I would recommend buying absolutely any vehicle from...
I would recommend buying absolutely any vehicle from here! The team at Red Wing Chevrolet treated me and my mother like family! No pressure into buying the vehicle we went to look at. Mike Mitchell was a awesome salesman to work with! Didn't rush us, let us take our time, answered our questions. Even bought us a pizza since we were there so late in the day purchasing a vehicle! I purchased a used Ford from there and down the road when I'm ready for another and they have a vehicle I'd like to purchase they have my business! Even buying a non GM vehicle here they treat you like you were buying a brand new car! I live over and hour from there and it's worth the drive to get the right vehicle from great people!
May 24, 2021
Excellent Service, Friendly Staff, Great Quality...
Excellent Service, Friendly Staff, Great Quality Vehicles Joyful Experience Would Highly Recommend Red Wing Chevrolet Buick Cadillac for a Vehicle new or used Amazing Staff
May 17, 2021
Mike Mitchell was wonderful to work with! Traded my jeep...
Mike Mitchell was wonderful to work with! Traded my jeep wrangler with a time for a Chevy Colorado. Satisfied with trade-in amount I received and I love my new truck!
Apr 28, 2021
I purchased a $40,000 truck in the rain. When I got it...
I purchased a $40,000 truck in the rain. When I got it home and dried there were issues should have been fixed before selling
Apr 22, 2021
It was my lucky day when I had my first year checkup and...
It was my lucky day when I had my first year checkup and free oil change on my chev equinox. After my service appointment I made my way to ti and had a nice win.
Annie Alcorn
Sales Associate
Jun 29, 2021
I was pleased with the service I received. Cody is a...
I was pleased with the service I received. Cody is a good point person and he communicates well both in person and via text. I felt the service team valued me as a customer. Overall I have had excellent experiences at Red Wing Chevrolet.
Jun 11, 2021
Red Wing Chevy gave me a great deal on my trade-in and...
Red Wing Chevy gave me a great deal on my trade-in and found me a new truck that met all my needs. It was a pleasure doing business with them.
Jun 07, 2021
We purchased a jeep cheroke from Red Wing Chevrolet Buick...
We purchased a jeep cheroke from Red Wing Chevrolet Buick Cadillac and have been very pleased and the service was excellent. I would recommend them highly.
May 13, 2021
Always a pleasure to see and deal with RW Chevrolet.First...
Always a pleasure to see and deal with RW Chevrolet.First time working with Annie and it was very nice and a pleasure.Thank all of you at RW Chevrolet
May 12, 2021
The whole process was a breeze great people to do...
The whole process was a breeze great people to do business with we told them what we wanted and could afford they listened and made every effort to come through
CRAIG DIERCKS
Sales Associate
Jul 15, 2021
Red Wing Chevrolet was great to do business with....
Red Wing Chevrolet was great to do business with. Everyone was extremely friendly and made our buying experience very pleasant. Would recommend them to anyone looking to buy a vehicle.
Jun 08, 2021
Brian and Craig were extremely helpful through the entire...
Brian and Craig were extremely helpful through the entire process and very informative every step of the way. They made it a smooth and painless process for purchasing my new vehicle. If I have need for for a vehicle in the future they'll be the first ones I go to.
Apr 28, 2021
Staff was friendly and professional. They ask questions...
Staff was friendly and professional. They ask questions to get information concerning my preferences. They were very cordial with no high pressure tactics. I recommend this dealership.
Mar 07, 2021
I love my new Trailblazer and was very happy to shop...
I love my new Trailblazer and was very happy to shop locally. The crew in Red Wing is great....no pressure. Also the mechanics do a fine job as well.
Feb 24, 2021
Excellent dealership with strong ties to the community....
Excellent dealership with strong ties to the community. Super service department and buying a car from the sales team is stress free and a great experience.
Dave O'Connell
Business Development Manager
Jul 11, 2021
Good service! No high pressure sales pitch. All my...
Good service! No high pressure sales pitch. All my questions were answered quickly. Minor differences were resolved. Thank you Red Wing Chev/Buick/Cad. I’m on the road again!
May 12, 2021
The whole process was a breeze great people to do...
The whole process was a breeze great people to do business with we told them what we wanted and could afford they listened and made every effort to come through
Mar 07, 2021
I love my new Trailblazer and was very happy to shop...
I love my new Trailblazer and was very happy to shop locally. The crew in Red Wing is great....no pressure. Also the mechanics do a fine job as well.
Feb 16, 2021
Good experience with all involved kevin in sales was...
Good experience with all involved kevin in sales was terrific start to Finnish. What I’d like to see is a fast lane for buying mine wasn’t confusing and it took longer than anticipated
Feb 02, 2021
Craig and Scott helped get me the best deal! Craig even...
Craig and Scott helped get me the best deal! Craig even brought the vehicle to my house so I could test drive it on my schedule! I appreciated that so much!
ANDY HAWKENSON
PARTS MANAGER
Jul 27, 2021
Always great service and reasonable prices. They are...
Always great service and reasonable prices. They are great at giving accurate estimates and getting it done. They always tell us if something unexpected comes up then they give us choices on what can be done. We trust them with all vehicle needs. People seem more like family. Christine Radtke
Feb 19, 2021
Y’all got things dialed in. The service crew is on point...
Y’all got things dialed in. The service crew is on point every time I call! Hawk always has his A game on or off the course! Thanks for always stepping up!
Feb 16, 2021
Good experience with all involved kevin in sales was...
Good experience with all involved kevin in sales was terrific start to Finnish. What I’d like to see is a fast lane for buying mine wasn’t confusing and it took longer than anticipated
Feb 04, 2021
In the last seven years, I’ve bought 4 new vehicles from...
In the last seven years, I’ve bought 4 new vehicles from Red Wing Chevrolet. You don’t keep going back to a dealership, if they aren’t taking care of you! The crew out there has treated me and my family very well. When I’m talking crew I am talking service, parts guys, and everyone involved with the dealership!!!
Oct 16, 2020
THEY ARE THE BEST. I TRUST THEM COMPLETELY. I HAVE BEEN...
THEY ARE THE BEST. I TRUST THEM COMPLETELY. I HAVE BEEN LOYAL TO GM FOR LIFE. AMDAHL'S HAS DONE NOTHING TO CHANGE MY POSITION!
MITCH AMDAHL
GM
Jun 12, 2021
Red Wing Chevrolet is a top notch deal. I buy all my...
Red Wing Chevrolet is a top notch deal. I buy all my vehicles from Red Wing Chevrolet. Their service department is very responsive to my needs.
May 25, 2021
That staff at Red Wing Chevrolet was very friendly and...
That staff at Red Wing Chevrolet was very friendly and incredible to deal with. They made me feel comfortable and confident with the vehicle I purchased.
Feb 16, 2021
Good experience with all involved kevin in sales was...
Good experience with all involved kevin in sales was terrific start to Finnish. What I’d like to see is a fast lane for buying mine wasn’t confusing and it took longer than anticipated
Dec 29, 2020
We have always had a good experience working with Red...
We have always had a good experience working with Red Wing Chevrolet. This time was no exception. They are always friendly and very professional. We got a great vehicle and feel great about the deal we got. We will be back!
Oct 16, 2020
THEY ARE THE BEST. I TRUST THEM COMPLETELY. I HAVE BEEN...
THEY ARE THE BEST. I TRUST THEM COMPLETELY. I HAVE BEEN LOYAL TO GM FOR LIFE. AMDAHL'S HAS DONE NOTHING TO CHANGE MY POSITION!
Kelly Ratz
SALES MGR/INVENTORY MGR
Feb 16, 2021
Good experience with all involved kevin in sales was...
Good experience with all involved kevin in sales was terrific start to Finnish. What I’d like to see is a fast lane for buying mine wasn’t confusing and it took longer than anticipated
Dec 29, 2020
Bought my last 2 vehicles from them. All the departments...
Bought my last 2 vehicles from them. All the departments that they have offer fantastic service. From buying a new vehicle, to getting service and parts. We will always do our business with this dealer!
Oct 22, 2020
The staff is great to deal with. The vehicle was...
The staff is great to deal with. The vehicle was delivered when promised. They are great about picking up and delivering my vehicle when something needs to be done with it.
Oct 16, 2020
THEY ARE THE BEST. I TRUST THEM COMPLETELY. I HAVE BEEN...
THEY ARE THE BEST. I TRUST THEM COMPLETELY. I HAVE BEEN LOYAL TO GM FOR LIFE. AMDAHL'S HAS DONE NOTHING TO CHANGE MY POSITION!
Apr 16, 2020
Received a nice welcome entering the dealership and it...
Received a nice welcome entering the dealership and it was very clean and organized. Kevin Dietz the sales contact was anxious to help me find my truck and talk about it and offered a test drive.
Ashley Oelkers
Sales Consultant
Aug 01, 2021
Ashley was awesome to work with! Helped me every step of...
Ashley was awesome to work with! Helped me every step of the way and always there to answer any questions I had. Red wing Chevrolet made the experience very comfortable and fun. The staff always made sure I was aware of everything going on and made sure to find the best deal for me. Ashley kept her word with all options and features discussed and made the whole experience run smoothly. Would definitely recommend her and Red Wing Chevrolet to anyone! Keep up the wonderful work Ashley! Thank you everyone at Red Wing Chevrolet!
Jul 21, 2021
Easy to work with no sales pitch and allowed me to stick...
Easy to work with no sales pitch and allowed me to stick to my budget. No pushy sales tactics here. Overall awesome experience! Fun atmosphere and awesome people!
Apr 22, 2021
I thought the dealership was great, the sales person I...
I thought the dealership was great, the sales person I worked with was very helpful and listened to what I wanted in a car, I love my chevy equinox, thank you
Apr 17, 2021
Amazing quick easy fun got approved real quick with no...
Amazing quick easy fun got approved real quick with no issues including not having any credit nothing but giggles and I would I highly recommend to anyone and anybody with good or not good credit gotta check this place out
Mar 26, 2021
I liked the price on the new truck and the trade in value...
I liked the price on the new truck and the trade in value on my SUV. From the first visit, until we finished the deal, everything was handle very professionally. My wife and I couldn't be happier. Thanks.
William "Arley" Overturf
Service Manager
Jul 28, 2021
Satisfactory and timely service, plus great staff! It’s...
Satisfactory and timely service, plus great staff! It’s always nice walking in and seeing everyone’s friendly faces. I would recommend this service center for any of your vehicles needs.
Jul 27, 2021
Always great service and reasonable prices. They are...
Always great service and reasonable prices. They are great at giving accurate estimates and getting it done. They always tell us if something unexpected comes up then they give us choices on what can be done. We trust them with all vehicle needs. People seem more like family. Christine Radtke
Jul 14, 2021
Quick service, easy to book appointments, thorough...
Quick service, easy to book appointments, thorough assessment of my car's upcoming needs, friendly staff. Very pleasant, well designed waiting area for both relaxation or work.
Jul 14, 2021
The service department got me in right away for an oil...
The service department got me in right away for an oil change and the service was fast! Cody even checked in on me the next day to ensure I was taken care of!
Jun 09, 2021
Great job. Very happy with the service and cleanliness....
Great job. Very happy with the service and cleanliness. I would recommend them to anyone. I have a brand that they do not carry and they were happy to work on it.
